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DMN SERVICES INC
1950 S VALLEY RD, LOMBARD, IL, 60148
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Due-diligence certificate
26
Power Units
26
Drivers
4
Crashes (24-Month)
$750,000
Insurance
Not Rated
Safety Rating
79
Inspections
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Public record
8 events tracked · latest Sep 10, 2026 ↓ Show details ↓Safety & compliance 7
- Aug 7, 2026Roadside inspection, 1 violation (no OOS).
- Jul 24, 2026Clean roadside inspection, no violations.
- Jul 19, 2026Roadside inspection, 3 violations (no OOS).
- Jul 19, 2026Clean roadside inspection, no violations.
- Nov 19, 2025Crash reported (no fatalities).
- Dec 13, 2024Crash reported (no fatalities).
- Sep 27, 2024Crash reported (no fatalities).
Insurance 1
- CurrentActive insurance on file ($750,000).
Public FMCSA record · blue clean · orange change · red risk.
Company Information
Legal NameDMN SERVICES INC
DOT Number3014161
MC Number30781
Entity TypeCarrier
Operating StatusA - Active
LocationLombard, Illinois
Added06/02/2017
MCS-15003/27/2026
Contact Details
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Physical Address1950 S VALLEY RD, LOMBARD, IL, 60148
Mailing Address1950 S VALLEY RD, LOMBARD, IL, 60148
Operating Authorities
Authority TypeAUTHORIZED FOR HIRE
Carrier OperationA - Interstate
DocketMC030781
CommonActive
ContractNot Active
BrokerNot Active
Operating9 years
Operation Classification
Authorized For Hire
SMS BASIC Scores
FMCSA safety categories, last 24 months. Above Cutoff = FMCSA flags a problem · Below cutoff = within limits · Clean = no violations.
Unsafe Driving
measure 7.04 · 13 insp with violations
Below cutoff
Hours-of-Service Compliance
measure .33 · 8 insp with violations
Below cutoff
Driver Fitness
measure 0 · 0 insp with violations
Clean
Controlled Substances / Alcohol
measure .21 · 1 insp with violations
Below cutoff
Vehicle Maintenance
measure 5.38 · 14 insp with violations
Below cutoff
Source: FMCSA SMS, updated monthly.
Mileage
Annual Mileage2,000,000 miles
Mileage Year2023
VMT SourceMCS-150 Form
Drivers
26
Interstate
0
Intrastate
0
CDL
26
Total
Interstate >100mi0
Interstate <100mi0
Intrastate >100mi0
Intrastate <100mi0
Safety Summary
Safety RatingNot Rated
Total Crashes (24-mo)4
Fatal0
Driver OOS0.0% avg 5.5%
Vehicle OOS33.3% avg 20.7%
SmartWay PartnerNo
Insurance
Amount$750,000
Type91X
VerifiedFMCSA · 06/16/2026
CompanyMS TRANSVERSE INSURANCE COMPANY
Policy #TINCA0021523
Last checked09/10/2026
Quick Facts
StatusActive
TypeCarrier
Fleet26 units
Drivers26
Mileage2,000,000 mi
Operating9 years
MCS-15003/2026
Safety & Inspection Data
Crash Summary
Total Crashes (24-mo)4
Fatal0
Injury0
Tow-Away4
Driver Inspections
Total55
Out of Service0
OOS Rate0.0%
National Avg5.5%
Below National Average
Vehicle Inspections
Total24
Out of Service8
OOS Rate33.3%
National Avg20.7%
Above National Average
Safety Trends by Year
Roadside inspections and crashes on file, year over year. The red portion of each inspection bar is the out-of-service share; ▲/▼ compares to the prior year.
Inspections · red = OOS
2023
5 · 0 OOS -
2024
21 · 7 OOS ▲
2025
27 · 3 OOS ▼
2026
31 · 2 OOS ▼
Crashes
2023
0 crashes -
2024
3 crashes ▲
2025
1 crash ▼
2026
0 crashes ▼
Based on FMCSA crash and roadside inspection records (rolling 3-year window). The latest year may be partial.
Out-of-Service Summary Last 24 months
Live FMCSA roadside inspections through Aug 2026, 65 inspections, 7 resulted in out-of-service (10.8% OOS rate).
Driver Out-of-Service
1 OOS
Vehicle Out-of-Service
9 OOS
Live FMCSA roadside inspection records, refreshed monthly.
Crash Records (4)
Full crash history on file (all years), newest first. This list may show more than the headline Crashes figure above, because that figure follows the official FMCSA 24-month SMS window used for the Trust Score, older crashes still appear here for transparency.
| Date | Location | State | Fatal | Injuries | Tow | Vehicles | Weather | Road | Light |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11/19/2025 | PINE CREEK TOWNSHIP | PA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | Clear | Dry | Dawn |
| 12/13/2024 | GADSDEN | AL | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | Clear | Dry | Dark - Not Lighted |
| 09/27/2024 | INDIANAPOLIS | IN | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | Rain | Wet | Daylight |
| 09/07/2024 | BRISTOL | TN | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | Clear | Dry | Daylight |
Roadside Violations by Safety Category Last 24 months
63 roadside violations across 65 inspections, grouped into FMCSA safety-behavior categories. The shaded portion shows how many were serious enough to result in an out-of-service order.
ViolationsOut-of-service
Unsafe Driving
26 violations · 1 OOS
Vehicle Maintenance
25 violations · 9 OOS
Hours-of-Service (HOS) Compliance
12 violations · 0 OOS
Categories follow FMCSR violation parts (Part 393/396 = Vehicle Maintenance, Part 395 = HOS; "Other" = general/administrative parts such as 390). Raw violation counts and out-of-service results, not FMCSA percentile rankings, which are not published for property carriers.
Inspection Records (84)
| Date | State | Level | Location | Violations | OOS | Driver Viol | Driver OOS | Vehicle Viol | Vehicle OOS | HazMat | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 08/07/2026 | OK | Driver-Only (Level III) | OK | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 07/24/2026 | NC | Walk-Around (Level II) | WINFALL NC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 07/19/2026 | MO | Full (Level I) | STEELE MO | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 07/19/2026 | MO | Driver-Only (Level III) | WILLOW SPRINGS MO | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 07/03/2026 | MS | Driver-Only (Level III) | ADAMS COUNTY | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/30/2026 | OH | Walk-Around (Level II) | MILAN OH | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/17/2026 | SC | Driver-Only (Level III) | COLUMBIA SC | 3 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/17/2026 | SC | Driver-Only (Level III) | POMARIA SC | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/17/2026 | AR | Driver-Only (Level III) | WEST MEMPHIS AR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/17/2026 | MO | Driver-Only (Level III) | STEELE MO | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/13/2026 | VA | Driver-Only (Level III) | GLEN ALLEN VA | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/10/2026 | NC | Driver-Only (Level III) | BESSEMER CITY NC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/08/2026 | KY | Driver-Only (Level III) | GRAY | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/05/2026 | IL | Driver-Only (Level III) | I-24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/21/2026 | MO | Full (Level I) | PLATTE CITY MO | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 3 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/11/2026 | KY | Driver-Only (Level III) | KUTTAWA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/30/2026 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | VIENNA GA | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/28/2026 | WI | Driver-Only (Level III) | FOND DU LAC WI | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/18/2026 | AL | Full (Level I) | HAYDEN AL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/11/2026 | TN | Driver-Only (Level III) | CLARKSVILLE TN | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/08/2026 | IN | Driver-Only (Level III) | LAFAYETTE IN | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/27/2026 | NE | Driver-Only (Level III) | WAVERLY WEST BOUND | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/12/2026 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | TIFTON GA | 6 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/04/2026 | IL | Driver-Only (Level III) | I-57 N/B MP 169.5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/02/2026 | MS | Walk-Around (Level II) | BOVINA SCALE I-20 EAST | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 02/27/2026 | KS | Driver-Only (Level III) | CONCORDIA KS | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 02/03/2026 | VA | Driver-Only (Level III) | BLAND VA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 01/26/2026 | IL | Driver-Only (Level III) | I-72 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 01/22/2026 | SC | Driver-Only (Level III) | TOWNVILLE SC | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 01/13/2026 | OH | Driver-Only (Level III) | PIKETON OH | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 01/02/2026 | FL | Driver-Only (Level III) | OCALA FL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/27/2025 | MS | Full (Level I) | LEAKE COUNTY | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/24/2025 | SC | Driver-Only (Level III) | POMARIA SC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/19/2025 | IL | Driver-Only (Level III) | 016 - MARION - I-57 N/B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/19/2025 | MI | Walk-Around (Level II) | MONROE SCALE N/B | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/13/2025 | TX | Walk-Around (Level II) | IH-0020 IN TARRANT CO. (424-45 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/03/2025 | MD | Full (Level I) | FROSTBURG MD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/01/2025 | SC | Driver-Only (Level III) | STARTEX SC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/28/2025 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | HADDOCK GA | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/28/2025 | MO | Full (Level I) | MAYVIEW MO | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/13/2025 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | FORSYTH GA | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/01/2025 | TN | Walk-Around (Level II) | CROSSVILLE TN | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/30/2025 | KY | Driver-Only (Level III) | CORBIN | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/16/2025 | AL | Walk-Around (Level II) | ALABASTER AL | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/12/2025 | AR | Driver-Only (Level III) | OZARK AR | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/05/2025 | SC | Walk-Around (Level II) | YEMASSEE SC | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 06/28/2025 | TN | Full (Level I) | MORRISON TN | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/16/2025 | AR | Driver-Only (Level III) | NORTH LITTLE ROCK AR | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/08/2025 | KY | Walk-Around (Level II) | MOREHEAD | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/05/2025 | OH | Walk-Around (Level II) | HEBRON OH | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/28/2025 | VA | Driver-Only (Level III) | DANVILLE VA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/26/2025 | TN | Driver-Only (Level III) | PIONEER TN | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/22/2025 | PA | Terminal (Level V) | SR 79 SB LONE PINE WEIGH STATI | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/10/2025 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | RINGGOLD GA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/04/2025 | NC | Driver-Only (Level III) | STATESVILLE WEIGH STATION, I-4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/22/2025 | TN | Walk-Around (Level II) | KNOXVILLE TN | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/17/2025 | NC | Walk-Around (Level II) | I-40 WB AT EXIT 111 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/05/2025 | TN | Walk-Around (Level II) | MOUNT JULIET TN | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/17/2024 | AR | Driver-Only (Level III) | VAN BUREN AR | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/12/2024 | IL | Driver-Only (Level III) | I-57 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/11/2024 | MD | Walk-Around (Level II) | WASHINGTON COUNTY | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/11/2024 | TX | Walk-Around (Level II) | US281 SB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/17/2024 | IL | Driver-Only (Level III) | I-57/70 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/07/2024 | WV | Driver-Only (Level III) | MARTINSBURG WV | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 10/04/2024 | MO | Full (Level I) | MAYVIEW MO | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/23/2024 | SC | Walk-Around (Level II) | I-20 WB LEXINGTON COUNTY | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/23/2024 | AL | Driver-Only (Level III) | ROADSIDE | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/20/2024 | TN | Full (Level I) | INTERSTATE 40 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 08/08/2024 | NY | Walk-Around (Level II) | WAWAYANDA (EB) | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/27/2024 | FL | Driver-Only (Level III) | BELLEVIEW FL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/21/2024 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | DARIEN GA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/20/2024 | MD | Full (Level I) | PARK & RIDE SCALE I-95 @ I-495 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 05/13/2024 | CT | Full (Level I) | MIDDLETOWN SCALE | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/29/2024 | MO | Walk-Around (Level II) | PLATTE CITY WEIGH STATION | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/19/2024 | IN | Driver-Only (Level III) | BATESVILLE IN | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 04/05/2024 | OK | Full (Level I) | BRAMAN SCALES | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 2 | - | ▲Detail |
| 03/02/2024 | AR | Walk-Around (Level II) | CRAWFORD COUNTY(ALMA EAST STN) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 02/06/2024 | AR | Full (Level I) | HEMPSTEAD CO (HOPE WEST STN) | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | - | ▲Detail |
| 01/30/2024 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | CARTERSVILLE GA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 12/19/2023 | GA | Driver-Only (Level III) | HIGH CRASH CORRIDOR | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/29/2023 | TN | Driver-Only (Level III) | GILES COUNTY SCALES | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/28/2023 | AR | Driver-Only (Level III) | CRITTENDEN CO (BRIDGEPORT STN) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/15/2023 | MI | Walk-Around (Level II) | GRASS LAKE SCALE W/B | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
| 11/10/2023 | MO | Walk-Around (Level II) | STEELE MO | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | - | ▲Detail |
Detailed Inspection Report
Safety Performance Percentiles
FMCSA SMS percentile rankings. Higher percentile = worse performance relative to peers.
Total Inspections68
Unsafe Driving
13 viols
HOS Compliance
8 viols
Controlled Substances
1 viols
Vehicle Maintenance
14 viols
Licensing & Insurance
| Form | Type | Insurance Company | Policy | Coverage | Effective | Cancel Date | Method |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | MS TRANSVERSE INSURANCE COMPANY | TINCA0021523 | $750,000 | 08/25/2025 | 08/25/2025 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | MS TRANSVERSE INSURANCE COMPANY | TINCA0021523 | $750,000 | 08/25/2024 | 08/25/2025 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | FALLS LAKE NATIONAL INSURANCE COMPANY | NISTK0021523 | $750,000 | 08/25/2023 | 08/25/2024 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | SENTRY SELECT INSURANCE COMPANY | A0131218001 | $750,000 | 08/25/2022 | 08/25/2023 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | STATE NATIONAL INSURANCE CO., INC. | GWP55041 00 | $750,000 | 08/18/2019 | 12/11/2019 | Cancelled |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | STATE NATIONAL INSURANCE CO., INC. | GWP55041 00 | $750,000 | 06/17/2019 | 08/18/2019 | Cancelled |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | KNIGHTBROOK INSURANCE COMPANY | KBI000012-00 | $750,000 | 06/17/2018 | 06/17/2019 | Cancelled |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | COUNTY HALL INSURANCE COMPANY, INC A RR GROUP | CHL 01-01272-17 | $750,000 | 06/17/2017 | 06/17/2018 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | ACCREDITED SURETY AND CASUALTY COMPANY, INC. | 1BWHIL1901259197-00 | $750,000 | 01/07/2022 | 08/25/2022 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | KNIGHTBROOK INSURANCE COMPANY | AFBIL000514-01 | $750,000 | 01/07/2021 | 01/07/2022 | Cancelled |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | KNIGHTBROOK INSURANCE COMPANY | AFBIL000514-00 | $750,000 | 01/07/2020 | 01/07/2020 | Replaced |
| 91X | BIPD/Primary | KNIGHTBROOK INSURANCE COMPANY | AFBIL000514-00 | $750,000 | 01/07/2020 | 01/07/2021 | Cancelled |
No active insurance policies.
| Docket | Type | Action | Served | Disposition | Disp Date |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MC030781 | COMMON | INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION | 12/13/2021 | DISCONTINUED REVOCATION | 01/07/2022 |
| MC030781 | COMMON | INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION | 12/11/2020 | DISCONTINUED REVOCATION | 01/07/2021 |
| MC030781 | COMMON | INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION | 07/29/2022 | DISCONTINUED REVOCATION | 08/22/2022 |
| MC030781 | COMMON | INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION | 07/22/2019 | DISCONTINUED REVOCATION | 07/29/2019 |
| MC030781 | MOTOR PROPERTY COMMON CARRIER | GRANTED | 06/23/2017 | REVOKED | 12/17/2019 |
| MC030781 | COMMON | INVOLUNTARY REVOCATION | 05/21/2019 | DISCONTINUED REVOCATION | 06/17/2019 |
| MC030781 | MOTOR PROPERTY COMMON CARRIER | REINSTATED | 01/10/2020 | - | - |
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